DJS,
Excellent post
"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.
but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.
--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.
DJS,
Excellent post
so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.
don't these people have a job to go to?
it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.
so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.
don't these people have a job to go to?
it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.
ToesUp
That is what I thought after the 2 Special Pioneers I kept for 30 minutes on their Memorial Day.
Sir82,
Never a JW.
so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.
don't these people have a job to go to?
it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.
So after the 2 Special Pioneers visited I thought I had given them an earful about the ARC and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.
OH, NO Not my luck I get an Elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 AM. Don't these people have a job to go to? It was a car with 3 men & a woman.
We go through the standard do you read the Bible yada yada, I tell them I know the routine very familiar with your game. I admitted i dated an Elder did not go into details. Are you aware of the ARC? Nope? Told him about G. Jackson lying his head off in a court of law along with Elders and all the others who lied. But I know you will not look that up. The actual video of his testimony is online but you will not dare to watch that.
Talked about Lopez and Conti. He said there are a lot of lies out there about us. I said the are actual court cases you can go online and read the actual transcript but I am sure you will not.
I suggested that they not take their child into a KH because you have no clue who is a pedophile. But our policies have changed we call authorities immediately in child abuse cases now. Really prove it I see all your BOE letters online and have seen no such thing. You call the service desk. There are more current letters. Bring me one and prove it.
Then they tried to make their exit but wait a minute I have one other thing to say let's talk about Caleb and Sofia. Oh and you could tell she just wanted to run and hide. He must have turned every shade of red known to mankind. You must be speaking of the one on homosexuality. How did you know? Well it has caused somewhat of a stir. I explained my upbringing and all my gay dads and that i would take great offense if one of Sofia friends started to preach to one of my grandchildren about paradise. That my grandchildren will be well educuated on the JW false predictions 1975 and 2000 and the ARC and your kids will get an education too.
He then admitted he has known through work and other place several homosexual couples and they are far more committed to their mates then some of the heterosexual couples.
Then we went into the 15 year old reported on this forum that just got disfellowshiped and then tried to commit suicide. I told him that was outright disgusted they have no right doing any such thing. I am a Certified Adult Volunteer I work with youth from 10 to 20. Yes we do not consider them adults until they are 20. He said it was the parents responsibility not theirs. Plain and simply I just landed all over his butt at this point and told him NO it is your responsibility YOU do not cause this type of damage to a child. I have a doctor's appointment -- keep that child out of the KH until YOU do your parental homework. Have a nice life.
i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.
it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.
there were six of us, now only four.
i stumbled upon this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/nick-king/jehovahs-witnesses-meet-a-five-year-old_b_9382460.html.
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sad to say, with this new sophia video, they just might be back with something to "say" to the little girl in this story..
the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
It is not just the gays, it is also the women and the children. Why can't the JWS treat all humans as their EQUALS?
How about -- Love one another. I think that the Bible does state that somewhere, if I am not mistaken in multiple places.
This religion is so stuck in the dark ages it is pathetic and has so many double standards. R&F are to give up all material pocessions while the GB and their helpers parade around in their expensive suits and gold watches and rings. Live the simple life while they live in luxury in a resort in upstate NY.
And if you think what what comes out of those GB mouths is spiritual well I would recommend you visit a real church.
OK rant over.
the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
Cofty,
To answer your question, I was never a JW. If you want to know how I ended up on this forum you can read all about the married "Elder" I dated for 5 years in my intro.
I have never been in a KH, trust me that would be rather explosive. No one tells this Italian lady what she can and cannot do!
the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
Cofty,
And they could appoint women elders, or they could scrap the archaic idea that wives should be in subjection to husbands.
Yes, they most definitely could it is the 21st century other religions have done just that. My best girlfriend is the Elder of Finance. Her husband treats her as an equal in their marriage.
there was a time when as a family, we'd host a bbq in our large back garden.
we'd have a small gazebo, tables and chairs.
the reggae music would be pumping out but not too loud.
Never a JW but life can throw us some mighty tuff curve balls. I come from a family of three, mom was a high functioning alcoholic, sister a prescription drug addict and I married a man who was verbally abusive who suffered a stroke when I was pregnant with my second child.
I was always picking up the pieces after my mother, sister and husband while raising two children.
It is one day at a time, I still believe in God so I did a lot of praying. I hit rock bottom financially at one point when he had his stroke and with a toddler and new baby I was forced to triple my business in rapid speed. The best thing is to make a plan, think positive, kick the WT butt, and make the best of the rest of your life prove them wrong.
BTW, my mother and sister will tell anyone and everyone after all I have done for them and all the money I have given them that I am a liar and a thief. This has been said to my face to lawyers and bank managers, I just consider the source. I am bonded, insured and licensed to serve my clients so these same people know these statements are lies.